Hidden Lines

[BeKirra]

Hi ALL

Can you please tell me how to change pipe hole to hidden lines on its side view, as the same as on 2D drawing?

Your helps would be much appreciated.

[BeKirra]

What I meant was,
1) I'll add fabrication details to the 3d pipe work.
2) On the drawing layout (paper spcae) it should have elevation view and plan view like a 2d drawing.

I'd like the drawing showing all hidden lines of pipe hollows as a 2d drawing does.
But how to do this?
Because all 3d model edges are displayed as solid lines.

Thanks.

[jaberwok]

The trouble is - it's going to be ALL hidden detail showing; you can't make some hidden detail show as hidden and some not show at all.
AFAIK you'll need to look into the solprof/solview/soldraw commands (and they are a pain).

[BeKirra]

The trouble is - it's going to be ALL hidden detail showing; you can't make some hidden detail show as hidden and some not show at all.
AFAIK you'll need to look into the solprof/solview/soldraw commands (and they are a pain).

I know a little bit of INVENTOR.
With it the user can create drawing (*.idw) & it transfers 3d obiects to 2d views.
On those views, all hidden lines can be shown as broken lines.

Can AutoCAD be able to do the same job?
I mean, what would ancient people do with AutoCAD before INVENTOR invented?

Thanks.

[jaberwok]

That's what the solprof/solview/soldraw commands do.
There may now be later tools in acad - Flatshot and Livesection, for example -but I'm not up to date with them.

[Arben.Allaraj]

I know a little bit of INVENTOR.
With it the user can create drawing (*.idw) & it transfers 3d obiects to 2d views.
On those views, all hidden lines can be shown as broken lines.

Can AutoCAD be able to do the same job?
I mean, what would ancient people do with AutoCAD before INVENTOR invented?

Thanks.

No AutoCAD couldn't do it.

Work with commands that Jaberwork writed.

[BeKirra]

No AutoCAD couldn't do it.

Work with commands that Jaberwork writed.

It is pity.
Thanks to you & John, anyway.
Question now is:
AutoCAD or Inventor :?:
...

[jaberwok]

Unless there's a good reason against it - Inventor, since it does what you want.

[BeKirra]

Unless there's a good reason against it - Inventor, since it does what you want.
Another problem (or question) then is:
File Exchange.

Most of our clients don't kown about Inventor & their Engineers/Drafters only stick with AutoCAD.
And now it will be a hard dicision to make for purchasing new software at this financial hard time...

[Arben.Allaraj]

Another problem (or question) then is:
File Exchange.

Most of our clients don't kown about Inventor & their Engineers/Drafters only stick with AutoCAD.
And now it will be a hard dicision to make for purchasing new software at this financial hard time...

Try to save as *.dwg from *.idw.

[jaberwok]

Another problem (or question) then is:
File Exchange.

Most of our clients don't kown about Inventor & their Engineers/Drafters only stick with AutoCAD.
And now it will be a hard dicision to make for purchasing new software at this financial hard time...

Like I said "Unless there's a good reason against it ......"

[BeKirra]

Like I said "Unless there's a good reason against it ......"

Hahahahahahahahaha...

[jfields.61630]

This can be done. Take the item that is modeled and place it in particular position that you desire. Say top view , then type the command "flatshot" on the command line ACAD will then create a block of this view complete with hidden lines, or at least it will as long as you tell it to in the flatshot dialog box. This creates a block of the required view. Then just name the view, go to the layout tab and create viewport, type view, select desired view, and pick the viewport you wish it to be displayed in and there you go. I think it is easier than the soldraw command. Give it a try, maybe it will work out for you.

[BeKirra]

This can be done. Take the item that is modeled and place it in particular position that you desire. Say top view , then type the command "flatshot" on the command line ACAD will then create a block of this view complete with hidden lines, or at least it will as long as you tell it to in the flatshot dialog box. This creates a block of the required view. Then just name the view, go to the layout tab and create viewport, type view, select desired view, and pick the viewport you wish it to be displayed in and there you go. I think it is easier than the soldraw command. Give it a try, maybe it will work out for you.

Thanks.
Yes, it works by using "flatshot".
But the problem is that it creates a new block...

[jaberwok]

You want to show some, but not all, hidden detail and have it update when the model changes. AFAIK there is no mechanism in acad that will do this. The only other tool for you to try is Sectionplane/Livesection; that doesn't show hidden detail either but it does show the actual material on the section plane and the visible unsectioned geometry behind it..

[BeKirra]

You want to show some, but not all, hidden detail and have it update when the model changes. AFAIK there is no mechanism in acad that will do this. The only other tool for you to try is Sectionplane/Livesection; that doesn't show hidden detail either but it does show the actual material on the section plane and the visible unsectioned geometry behind it..

John,
Thanks for your explanation.
Another one, how does people transfer their 3d drawing to 2d manufacture drawing?
Or for fabrication/manufacture drawing by using AutoCAD, would people be better to stay in 2d world?

[jaberwok]

3d geometry in modelspace. Viewports in paperspace. Freeze layers in viewports as necessary. Dimension in paperspace. Set viewport plot mode to Hidden or 3d Hidden.

[BeKirra]

3d geometry in modelspace. Viewports in paperspace. Freeze layers in viewports as necessary. Dimension in paperspace. Set viewport plot mode to Hidden or 3d Hidden.

Thanks, John.

[randalf]

Thanks again, John.

[arshiel88]

You may set different visual styles on each viewport, and you can turn on/off the hidden lines (Occluded Edges) per style.