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djkozina
2009-02-12, 03:52 PM
I know that RS provides several methods to add openings thru walls.
I can add a door or window opening, defined as needed. I can add a wall opening. I could probably edit the wall profile, too. Any other methods I'm overlooking?
I was wondering which method is preferred in what circumstances?
It seems to me that the wall opening tool itself is handy for 'out-of-the-ordinary' opening sizes. Even so, I find the opening tool to be somewhat 'eccentric' in its behavior, in that I have to first place the opening, edit it, and then often reedit it (more than once), to get it properly positioned and the right size. (Basically, it's making me old before my time - and I don't need more help in *that* regard.) Any tips on how to use this tool effectively/efficiently? I don't think I'm there yet.
As for the door/window opening families themselves, these seem to me to be a little more intuitive, since I can define the sizes I need, put them in and swap them out with other sizes as the case may require. BUT, I find that in placing them, they always dimension in plan to their centers, whereas I'd like to see the distances to the edges of openings. Is there an easy way to do this? That would really help, since I pretty much always have to go back and reposition them after I first place them. (It would be really nice to be able to place things correctly to begin with.)
ALSO, with respects to the doors, we generally cut the foundation wall down 8" and allow the slab to pour over the foundation wall. So for our needs, the door needs to cut thru BOTH the concrete or masonry wall above AND the foundation wall below. I created a modified door opening that was 8" taller than the normal 6'-8" in order to accomplish this, and then place it at -8" relative to the top of foundation wall elevation. Though it seems to do what I need, I'm not sure this is the best way to do this (the word 'kludge' comes to mind). Also I'm finding that the door doesn't always cut into BOTH walls, unless it is re-hosted (sometimes it takes a few tries to get it to 'take'), and THEN I've usually got to go back and reposition it. This does not seem very efficient to me, and is taking me MUCH longer to accomplish than it does in AutoCAD (2D planwork).
Any guidance/tips/help on any of these matters would be most appreciated.

Regards,
David Kozina

djkozina
2009-02-12, 04:10 PM
Here's an example of a door opening that's just been added, but more hosting gymnastics are required before the top of foundation wall gets notched out, (like the other 2 openings have). Also notice the dimensions running to the center of opening.

kberry
2009-02-12, 11:44 PM
I know that RS provides several methods to add openings thru walls.
I can add a door or window opening, defined as needed. I can add a wall opening. I could probably edit the wall profile, too. Any other methods I'm overlooking?
I was wondering which method is preferred in what circumstances?
It seems to me that the wall opening tool itself is handy for 'out-of-the-ordinary' opening sizes. Even so, I find the opening tool to be somewhat 'eccentric' in its behavior, in that I have to first place the opening, edit it, and then often reedit it (more than once), to get it properly positioned and the right size. (Basically, it's making me old before my time - and I don't need more help in *that* regard.) Any tips on how to use this tool effectively/efficiently? I don't think I'm there yet.
As for the door/window opening families themselves, these seem to me to be a little more intuitive, since I can define the sizes I need, put them in and swap them out with other sizes as the case may require. BUT, I find that in placing them, they always dimension in plan to their centers, whereas I'd like to see the distances to the edges of openings. Is there an easy way to do this? That would really help, since I pretty much always have to go back and reposition them after I first place them. (It would be really nice to be able to place things correctly to begin with.)
ALSO, with respects to the doors, we generally cut the foundation wall down 8" and allow the slab to pour over the foundation wall. So for our needs, the door needs to cut thru BOTH the concrete or masonry wall above AND the foundation wall below. I created a modified door opening that was 8" taller than the normal 6'-8" in order to accomplish this, and then place it at -8" relative to the top of foundation wall elevation. Though it seems to do what I need, I'm not sure this is the best way to do this (the word 'kludge' comes to mind). Also I'm finding that the door doesn't always cut into BOTH walls, unless it is re-hosted (sometimes it takes a few tries to get it to 'take'), and THEN I've usually got to go back and reposition it. This does not seem very efficient to me, and is taking me MUCH longer to accomplish than it does in AutoCAD (2D planwork).
Any guidance/tips/help on any of these matters would be most appreciated.

Regards,
David Kozina

If you click on the dots of the dimensions to the opening it will cycle from centerline of opening to edge of opening which you can then override the dimension and input what you need. This makes locating the opening much easier than using the opening centerline dim's.
The method you describe regarding oversizing door opening height is how we do it as well. We pour the slab down onto the stem at door openings so we oversize by 4" to 8" depending on condition and place opening down by that distance.