Revisions Clouds...Where to Put and Why?

[amjones]

All,

Where are you all putting your clouds for revisions...in the view itself or over top of the view on the sheet? Both get the revision into the schedule of course. Is there a benefit to either way?

Also, I have a situation where I have tagged a change in the view (rather than on the sheet) and that revision turns up on other sheets, even though there are no revisions on that sheet or in that view. Why would it do that? Would making the clouds all in the sheets, rather than in the views, take care of this issue?

Thanks,
Drew

[patricks]

You can do revisions either By Project or By Sheet. If you do it By Project, it will show up everywhere. If you do it by Sheet, then only the revisions on that sheet will show up in the schedule on that sheet.

[amjones]

Patrick,

Actually, I figured it out; more on that later.

As for ‘by project’ or ‘by sheet’ we are doing it ‘by project’. This does not put the revisions on every sheet, only the sheets that have a revision. It is the same as by sheet but the count is for the whole project rather than individual counts per sheet. This does lead to situations where there may be a gap in the revisions on a certain sheet (say going from 1 to 3 instead of 1, 2 and 3) but we find that if a revision number has the same date across the board it creates significantly less confusion both in the firm and in the field. We are willing to trade that for potential gaps in numbering…to each there own of course ;)

As for why I had mystery revisions: My coworker added a few clouds to a drawing before we had set anything up revisions wise….for whatever reason he then hid them in the view. As soon as I set up the revision schedule and set up the revisions information I was seeing sheets updated (in the schedule) that I knew I had not updated, and that I could not see clouds on. A quick pass with the hidden/visible light bulb took care of the issue.

Anyway, thanks for the response. In the long run there is no diffrence between making the bubbles in the view on over top the view on th sheet.

Drew

[cliff collins]

Put the clouds in the Views--not on Sheets. ( just like "no annotations in Paper Space"
from the Acad days..)

Word of caution: You can not put a revision cloud on a Schedule--
so for revisions to Schedules you must place the Schedules on Sheets, then
place the clouds over the schedules on the sheet.

ALWAYS PIN THE SCHEDULE AND THE CLOUD/TRIANGLE--otherwise if someone moves the schedule the clouds won't move with the schedule and you will have a mess!

I believe that the ability to cloud schedules is on the Wishlist?

Cheers...............

[saeborne]

All,

Where are you all putting your clouds for revisions...in the view itself or over top of the view on the sheet? Both get the revision into the schedule of course. Is there a benefit to either way?

Drew

As for drawing the revision cloud in the view or the sheet...

Most of the time, I put the bubble within the view. I like it because as a view moves on a sheet, it's one fewer elements, that I have to keep track of, or update.

But, there are times when I do but the cloud on the sheet itself. For example, if there is a 3D view on my drawing set... I can't put the revision cloud (or any other annotation on the 3D view). Another example, if I'm issuing a brand new sheet, I might cloud the sheet number on the corner of the sheet, to signify that it is a new sheet.

BC

[patricks]

Put the clouds in the Views--not on Sheets. ( just like "no annotations in Paper Space"
from the Acad days..)

Word of caution: You can not put a revision cloud on a Schedule--
so for revisions to Schedules you must place the Schedules on Sheets, then
place the clouds over the schedules on the sheet.

ALWAYS PIN THE SCHEDULE AND THE CLOUD/TRIANGLE--otherwise if someone moves the schedule the clouds won't move with the schedule and you will have a mess!

I believe that the ability to cloud schedules is on the Wishlist?

Cheers...............

The bad thing is that even pinning doesn't help if, for example, a door gets added in the middle of the schedule, and then another door gets added in a later revision up higher on the schedule. Now your cloud is going to encircle the wrong door, unless you unpin it and move it down, then re-pin it.

So yeah, we really need to be able to cloud actual rows and/or columns in the schedule.

[cliff collins]

Yep.

Try chasing 15 sheets of schedules around------------very anti-BIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I beat this issue to death some time ago...............

Factory needs to listen and provide tools for placing revisions directly on schedules.
LOL

cheers........

[ejc]

Schedules with a revision field! Very cool idea.

I personally would like to be able to generate a schedule that shows which sheets have which revisions.

Let us not forget from where we came from. AutoCad has existed for more than 20 years and used over every discipline known. I still don't think they track revisions?

Anyway, if your not learning, growing, or improving,....your dead!

ejc