FREEZE tool/icon (snowflake) was in AutoCAD 2004, lost in AutoCAD 2007

I've recently been upgraded from v.2004 to v.2007 and I've lost a very useful tool.
v.2004 offered a FREEZE icon (snowflake) that allowed the user to select any specific item on a layer and remove it from displaying WITHOUT turning 'off' the entire layer.
i.e., If a layer contained a large rectangle with 6 small squares (#1 thru 6), I could click on the 'snowflake' then select squares #2 & #5 and they would turn 'off' (be removed from view and also from printing/plotting); the remaining rectangle and squares #1,3, 4 & 6 would still display.

I have searched v.2007 and can't find a way to access this tool; other than the Std. 'snowflake' that turns the entire layer 'off'.

I used this tool for displaying engineering devices when Architctural or other
engineering disciplines have objects that are not relevant to my package; or contain too much graphics that make the drawing difficult to read. This was really a time-saver!!!



Thanks in advance.

Is this vanilla AutoCAD or a vertical?

If this is Map or LDT, try the ._AecHideObjects command

You got me there...all I know is that we have the Full licensed Office version..

I thought that I heard that this was taken from Express Tools and made part of ACAD2007 (even LT)? Was I mistaken? It may be just relocated to a different toolbar?

I' ve searched until I'm blue in the face...can't find ....

I don't know about vanilla AutoCAD, but in ADT there is a new toolbar called "Layers II" which is where you can find it. Also in the Format pulldown in layer tools. The icon on the toolbar looks a bit different, but it still has the snowflake.


Sorry, I just reread your post and I don't think this is what you are looking for. The only thing I can think of that is close is the object isolate/ object hide tools, but I don't know if there is a toolbar for them, only the lightbulb at the bottom right corner.

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Originally Posted by cholmes

The only thing I can think of that is close is the object isolate/ object hide tools, but I don't know if there is a toolbar for them, only the lightbulb at the bottom right corner.

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That is the ._AecHideObjects command.

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Originally Posted by amiller.119875

Full licensed Office version..

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:?: I suppose you mean that you have Full blown AutoCAD, not AutoCAD LT.

Are you sure that this wasn't a 3rd party routine that you had in r2004?

I don't know of any core command that "hides certain objects" - not the entire layer.

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Thanks in advance.

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Will this set of routines from Cadalyst do what you are looking for?

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Originally Posted by Opie

Will this set of routines from Cadalyst do what you are looking for?

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With having to use the command to show the items before you quit, it's almost like using Erase & OOPS commands...

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Originally Posted by amiller.119875

You got me there...all I know is that we have the Full licensed Office version..

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Without knowing what software package you are working with, it is impossible to answer this question.

Go to your help--> about and tell us what software you are using.

We have this Lisp Routine at our work, there's several variations of this routine we have, including lock, unlock and layer off.. the only problem i have with it is that it needs a selected object and cannot take a window or a crossing as an input type.

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(defun c:LAYER-FREEZE (/ obj-source lay-name lay-lst lay-name)
  (setvar "cmdecho" 0)
  (while (setq obj-source
                  (entsel "\nPick an object on the layer to be freezed: ")
                )
                (setq obj-source (car obj-source))
                (setq lay-name (cdr (assoc 8 (entget obj-source))))
                (setq lay-lst (tblsearch "layer" lay-name))
                (setq lay-name (cdr (assoc 2 lay-lst)))
                (if (= lay-name (getvar "clayer"))
                  (alert (strcat "Cannot freeze layer" lay-name ". It is the CURRENT layer."))
                  (command "-layer" "f" lay-name "")
                )
  )
  (setvar "cmdecho" 1)
  (princ)
)

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Originally Posted by BrenBren

Without knowing what software package you are working with, it is impossible to answer this question.

Go to your help--> about and tell us what software you are using.

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AutoCAD 2007
Version: A.54.0 (UNICODE)
Service Pack: 0

I don't know if it was a '3rd party' item; I was shown it's function when I was having trouble trying to insert some electrical gear on a drawing that was too cluttered...one of the designers said 'Do this...click, click' and the clutter was deleted from the drawing without disturbing the remaining layer display....

If not 'findable', this is a fantastic tool for AutoCAD to incorporate as a new upgrade download.....and not wait for v.2008(?)

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Originally Posted by amiller.119875

AutoCAD 2007
Version: A.54.0 (UNICODE)
Service Pack: 0

I don't know if it was a '3rd party' item; I was shown it's function when I was having trouble trying to insert some electrical gear on a drawing that was too cluttered...one of the designers said 'Do this...click, click' and the clutter was deleted from the drawing without disturbing the remaining layer display....

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Can you find this designer and ask him/her?

Sounds like either the ._AecHideObjects command -or- a 3rd party routine. ToolPac for example includes a function to do this.

You can also do this with your own lisp or vba code by setting the VISIBLE property to FALSE for the selected objects. The following code defines two functions:

HIDEME: to hide objects
SHOWME: to restore them

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(defun C:HIDEME (/ ss i)
  (setq ss (ssget) i 0)
  (repeat (sslength ss)
    (vla-put-Visible
      (vlax-ename->vla-object (ssname ss i))
      :vlax-false
    )
    (setq i (1+ i))
  )
)

(defun C:SHOWME (/ ss i)
  (setq ss (ssget "X" '((60 . 1))) i 0)
  (repeat (sslength ss)
    (vla-put-Visible
      (vlax-ename->vla-object (ssname ss i))
      :vlax-true
    )
    (setq i (1+ i))
  )
)

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Originally Posted by amiller.119875

AutoCAD 2007
Version: A.54.0 (UNICODE)
Service Pack: 0

I don't know if it was a '3rd party' item; I was shown it's function when I was having trouble trying to insert some electrical gear on a drawing that was too cluttered...one of the designers said 'Do this...click, click' and the clutter was deleted from the drawing without disturbing the remaining layer display....

If not 'findable', this is a fantastic tool for AutoCAD to incorporate as a new upgrade download.....and not wait for v.2008(?)

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We've had wishes on the wish list before to be able to select objects; they didn't do so well in the voting.

Sounds like a third party item; I don't think anything like this is available in vanilla AutoCAD; the closest we've got is the layer freeze and thaw tools.

pull any one of the toolbars into your drawing area and right click on the dark colored part and you will see a list of toolbars, select layer II the layer tools that were in express tools have been incorporated into the program, let me know if it works it did for me.

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Originally Posted by rlh

pull any one of the toolbars into your drawing area and you will see a list of toolbars, select layer II the layer tools that were in express tools have been incorporated into the program, let me know if it works it did for me.

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As concluded in this thread, there is no built in tool to do what the OP requests, therefore it's not on the "Layers II" or any other toolbar.

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Originally Posted by Neda Anser

I've recently been upgraded from v.2004 to v.2007 and I've lost a very useful tool.
v.2004 offered a FREEZE icon (snowflake) that allowed the user to select any specific item on a layer and remove it from displaying WITHOUT turning 'off' the entire layer.
i.e., If a layer contained a large rectangle with 6 small squares (#1 thru 6), I could click on the 'snowflake' then select squares #2 & #5 and they would turn 'off' (be removed from view and also from printing/plotting); the remaining rectangle and squares #1,3, 4 & 6 would still display.

I have searched v.2007 and can't find a way to access this tool; other than the Std. 'snowflake' that turns the entire layer 'off'.

I used this tool for displaying engineering devices when Architctural or other
engineering disciplines have objects that are not relevant to my package; or contain too much graphics that make the drawing difficult to read. This was really a time-saver!!!



Thanks in advance.

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Once you have the 2007 software installed you have to put your disk back in to enable you to select the supplemental tools under the install tab. You should be able to install the express tools set which has the tool you are looking for. I hope this sorts out your problem.

Stephen

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Originally Posted by stephen.connor3

Once you have the 2007 software installed you have to put your disk back in to enable you to select the supplemental tools under the install tab. You should be able to install the express tools set which has the tool you are looking for. I hope this sorts out your problem.

Stephen

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See above.

the snowflake as we know was added to layer II toolbar as part of autocad 2007 and they changed the icon, [Moderator Edit: non-pertinant information]

But that is "freeze object's layer" not "freeze object" as originally mentioned.