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    Post Managing grids and Levels between disciplines?

    This morning I was asked,

    Who ie how do you manage grids and levels between disciplines using different BIM software?

    Who owns levels and grids - Structure or architecture etc.
    and who manages this part between linked models ie Engineers on Revit MEP and Structure and Architects on Revit Architecture?

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    I think that it depends on who started the project. If we (the architectural firm) starts the project then we would own it. If the structural firm starts it, then we would use copy monitor on all grids and columns. Of course the it's always open to discussion, but in a nut shell, that's how we operate.

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    Default Re: Managing grids and Levels between disciplines?

    In my experience, this is usually covered in the project kick-off meeting(s). In most cases ownership of both was the architect's, while in some cases the grid was given to structural.
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    The methodology that has worked well for me in the past is for the ARCH to set up a grid system for design development purposes.

    Once the Structural Engineer has established a grid that is structurally necessary, then (s)he takes charge of the grid, and the ARCH deletes theirs and "monitors" the structural grid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The.Sheehans View Post
    The methodology that has worked well for me in the past is for the ARCH to set up a grid system for design development purposes.

    Once the Structural Engineer has established a grid that is structurally necessary, then (s)he takes charge of the grid, and the ARCH deletes theirs and "monitors" the structural grid.
    I'm not sure that would work so well for the MEP consultants. If MEP copy/monitors the arch grids, they will lose the monitor when the grids are deleted from the arch model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertB View Post
    I'm not sure that would work so well for the MEP consultants. If MEP copy/monitors the arch grids, they will lose the monitor when the grids are deleted from the arch model.
    You bring up a good point. What I normally do is set the grid and levels from the beginning and will adjust the grid based on the needs of the structural engineer.

    But is it really necessary for MEP to monitor the grids?

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    Default Re: Managing grids and Levels between disciplines?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reviteer View Post
    You bring up a good point. What I normally do is set the grid and levels from the beginning and will adjust the grid based on the needs of the structural engineer.

    But is it really necessary for MEP to monitor the grids?
    That is debatable. The issue is that, if MEP does not copy/monitor the grids, they are stuck with the position of the grid's elements. There may be some views that the MEP creates where they would want to change the grid's look, and would be stuck without the C/M.

    However, is it worth the pain? :shrug:
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