North arrow, nested in a View Title, getting the "N" to rotate

[ron.sanpedro]

I have a north arrow nested in our view titles, and visible for all plan views, with a parameter to control the True North deviation. I had to make the rotation happen in the nested north arrow, and I am unable to get a little "N" to rotate as well. Of course we are used to (in Acad and Revit) having that little N there and we do a manual rotate, and all is fine. But I seem unable to get the same behavior with the nested component. I started with just a piece of text, but that doesn't work because the text has no meaningul references to align with. So I tried the text in a Generic Annotation, nested in the North Arrow generic annotation, nested in the View Title. I can align and lock the N, but when the ref line rotates the constraints blow up.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks!
Gordon

[aggockel50321]

Just a guess, but try setting up the rotation parameter / reference line in the view title family, rather than in the generic annotation family, and then align lock the generic annotation family to that.

[Ning Zhou]

you don't have to add ref line, for unknown reason, you cannot lock nested text annotation to ref line, you can just add angle parameter directly w/o using ref line.

[Imwezal]

is your "Keep Readable parameter turned on in the family?

http://www.perrycrabb.com/may-the-no...w-be-with-you/

[Craig_L]

The solution is quite simple, I talked with Gordon about this, but I will add it here.

Make a generic annotation component with your text and north arrow artwork inclusive.

Insert the annotation family into your title block, and add a reference line.

Align and lock your generic annotation to the reference line.

Angular dimension to the reference line, and to the perpendicular component of your arrow detail item.

Add a parameter and assign it to the dimension line and name it whatever you like.
"North Point" for example.

Group it under dimensions and make it a type parameter.

You may also want to add an on/off toggle to it, because you won't need the arrow on every sheet (like details for example). So add another parameter under graphics, and name it "North on/off" or whatever you want really. This is an instance parameter.

[Thomas Maleski]

karalon10

Are you talking about a Title Block and NOT a View Title?

I've been trying to figure this out for a while and can not get it to work inside a View Title family. I get the same error Gordon was talking about, the constraints blow up.

Do you have an example to post?

[Ning Zhou]

see attached, as i said before, do not use ref line even though i don't know why, maybe someone or factory can explain it.

[Craig_L]

I totally mis-read the OP's intent, yes I am referring to titleblock with a north point, my apologies.

I don't have 2011 version so I can't take a look at the one supplied above but if anyone can give out a 2010 version I'll take a look.