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    Default Mock-sash window.

    Does anyone know where I might find a mock sash window; I can’t seem to find one. Thought I'd ask before I try my usual trick of window butchery.

    Regards, Paul.

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    Default Re: Mock-sash window.

    Doesn't matter, the skillful art of window butchery is alive and well.

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    Default Re: Mock-sash window.

    Sharing gets suck up points!

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    Default Re: Mock-sash window.

    Hi Abe, you got me thinking about why I have to, as I say; “butcher” a family to get it to look how I want it to.

    The reason for this being that I have to amend existing families because I don’t yet have the knowledge of the family editor to create project specific families that I need, because of a lack of understanding and most of all time. Especially when under real time project pressure, I can’t afford to spend however long it may be trying to get to grips with the family editor, I just don’t have the time at the moment.

    Just another thing I suppose on the list to tackle on the road to Revit enlightenment , Re: Chris Z's "Phases of a Revit User". Even though this is not the correct way to go about it, it’s a good way for me of slowly getting into using the family editor until I have some spare time to devote to this.

    With regards to this post, I went about simplifying a window family (top hung) that looked good enough in section to represent a mock sash and changed the sweep profile and other things so as not to make it look over complicated in elevation that at a scale of 1/100 it would be satisfactory for what we need.

    How are other handling creating project specific content.

    Regards, Paul.

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    Default Re: Mock-sash window.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul P.
    ...How are other handling creating project specific content...
    In my case it is a matter of not being satisfied with most of "off the shelf" ready to use posted families. You see, I am a little crazy when it comes to detailing my families (my wife reckons that she wouldn't be at all surprised to see my hot and cold water taps to have "H" and "C" on them - even if you have to zoom 50 times on them to see it - that's just me ).

    That's why I made it my absolutely first priority to fully understand the Family Editor. Now, if I need something, I simply make it myself. All I need is some real life measurements to go by (usually taken from the manufacturers' brochures).

    I still struggle with creation of fully parametric 2 × 45º Bay Window - one that would include fully parametric sills (user adjustable for different wall veneers from 0.0 mm to, say, 110 mm protrusion) and parametric height base wall (under window) to also be automatically compatible with the type of the "main wall". With fully exchangeable nested window types... Yeah, dream on...

    Anyway, my obsession to create everything myself unfortunately is reflected in greatly lowered speed of drawing. Thanks Goodness I have a luxury of working from home, so I have a chance to make it up by working longer hours. And I really hope that it will come a day that I will draw a house using only my extensive, already existing library... So far in every job there is always something new, which I haven't got yet.

    I include some of my very basic creations (not that they are any good, but I find them useful) - maybe somebody will find some use for them too.

    Cheers,

    Jerry
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    Default Re: Mock-sash window.

    Hi Jerry, thanks for the reply. I really should get round to learning the family editor because it's not that we aren't satisfied with the as you say, "off the shelf" families its that they just don't quite look right for us.

    Here's an example of a single casement window I modified for a one-off window to a stair-core. (don't no if you can see it to well).
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    Default Re: Mock-sash window.

    I include some of my very basic creations (not that they are any good, but I find them useful) - maybe somebody will find some use for them too.
    Jerry, You are the kind of Guy we are gonna need when we get the Exchange Upload functioning! Thanks for sharing some of your families!

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    Default Re: Mock-sash window.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul P.
    ... it's not that we aren't satisfied with the as you say, "off the shelf" families its that they just don't quite look right for us...
    That's exactly my point! Sorry, perhaps I used the wrong wording - THERE IS NOTHING WRONG with all the families posted out there, but most of them are for a different market (USA and Canada). In Australia we have very different styles of windows, white goods, cupboards, etc. The American windows (while often very beautifully done) look strange on elevations for an Australian house - some Clients have problem with it...

    Well, I had this situation with a Client that even could be funny if it wasn't so serious: As a part of my policy, I always include a 3-D view of the kitchen, even in my preliminary (or sketch) drawings. This is done only as a courtesy - I am not asked for it - but many times I was told how great that is. Great selling tool, allowing the Client to much better visualize their future house, the Kitchen being such a big selling factor, etc. Since I draw in 3-D to start with, and I have an extensive (already) range of kitchen cabinets, white goods, etc, I simply use them as they come - they are indicative only anyway... Yet, this Client actually seriously objected to the style of my "wall oven tower", claiming that he specifically requested (with builder) his Kitchen to be equipped with a particular model, different from what I showed there...! And it didn't matter that I included disclaimer saying that "Kitchen view is schematic and indicative only".

    That's what you've got for your good heart and when you include freebies...

    Cheers,

    Jerry

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