layer simplification

[tim_newsome]

I am back in the CIV3D world. I am browsing the Parcels forum in hopes to find answers to two issues I use to fight with but found crafty remedies for but haven't used in long time so I don't want to create a mess first.

1) it seems like the overall boundary needed to be defined as a parcel as well as the individual lots?

2) layer managing, In other words having control of changing lot front to ROW layer. couple yrs back I remember finding away to trick CIV3D to minimize cluster of layers that made layer managing a nightmare.

[jpaulsen]

1) The boundary parcel needs to be in a separate site from the lots and R.O.W. However, there is not requirement the boundary be a parcel.

2) We don't mess with the layering of the parcels. We draw the boundary, lots and R.O.W. in AutoCAD using lines and arcs on our layers. Then we create parcels from object. The parcel segments go on their own layer that is set to no-plot. This may not be the ideal way to handle this because we duplicate data but we have found it to be quite easy to make sure our line work and the parcel segments are identical.

[rkmcswain]

2) We don't mess with the layering of the parcels. We draw the boundary, lots and R.O.W. in AutoCAD using lines and arcs on our layers. Then we create parcels from object.

Agree with the above and add: we just leave the parcels on the default C3D layers and freeze them. What we print is the lines/arcs mentioned above.

[jpaulsen]

we just leave the parcels on the default C3D layers and freeze them.

I'd like to be able to freeze them but we use the parcel segment labels for the final plat labeling (bearing, distance, etc.) so we can't freeze the segment layer. If you freeze or turn off the segments the segment labels also turn off.

[tim_newsome]

Thanks Jeff, Very helpful.

[rkmcswain]

I'd like to be able to freeze them but we use the parcel segment labels for the final plat labeling (bearing, distance, etc.) so we can't freeze the segment layer. If you freeze or turn off the segments the segment labels also turn off.

There is a way around this, I'll post it a bit later.

[Iceberg]

Is this still what the majority of people do?

Reason I am asking is that I can not figure out how to get parcel lines to print out correct when multiple parcel lines are on top off each other, like side yard lot lines. I think I might be creating the parcels wrong using closed plotlines too? In the end I just apply a no lines style to the parcels to clean the plan for printing.

[Opie]

The above suggestion is not our method.

For subdivision plats, we initially draw the boundary lines as lines, arcs, and polylines. We then convert those to parcels and delete the original objects. Typically, we will have three parcel styles associated with the site containing all of these parcels. The site parcel is assigned one style as the local district requires the parcel to be displayed differently than the rest of the data. We then assign the street right-of-ways another style. And finally, the individual lots are assigned yet another style.

The display hierarchy of these styles is usually the Site Parcel, the right-of-ways, and then the individual lots. Each one of these styles have are assigned to specific layers and the layers control the lineweight and plot styles.

For boundary lines outside of the site, we will maintain those as basic AutoCAD linework on an appropriate layer.

For boundary surveys, we use a similar procedure with a different style.

[rkmcswain]

There is a way around this, I'll post it a bit later.

I see that I never returned to answer this.
If anyone really wants to know, bump this thread.

[BlackBox]

I see that I never returned to answer this.
If anyone really wants to know, bump this thread.

*bump*... Drop that knowledge bomb.