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    Summary: Users should be able to save an Architecture drawing so that other users on earlier versions in the same office can work on them. Not all offices can afford to keep all their licenses current and it's impossible to collaborate with other users of Architecture.

    Description: Users should be able to save an Architecture drawing so that other users on earlier versions in the same office can work on them. Not all offices can afford to keep all their licenses current and it's impossible to collaborate with other users of Architecture.

    Product and Feature: AutoCAD Architecture - Drawing Compare

    Submitted By: Richard Logan on 10/29/2014


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish List System View Post
    Summary: Users should be able to save an Architecture drawing so that other users on earlier versions in the same office can work on them. Not all offices can afford to keep all their licenses current and it's impossible to collaborate with other users of Architecture.

    Description: Users should be able to save an Architecture drawing so that other users on earlier versions in the same office can work on them. Not all offices can afford to keep all their licenses current and it's impossible to collaborate with other users of Architecture.

    Product and Feature: AutoCAD Architecture - Drawing Compare

    Submitted By: Richard Logan on 10/29/2014
    You mean AutoCAD Architecture does not have in-built SAVEAS, or EXPORT functionality? *not sure*

    Can you not specify in OPTIONS dialog, Open and Save tab, Save as dropdown, select <YourOlderVersionHere>, so that those using new version have this set as default in their Profile?
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    Default Re: Saving to an earlier version

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBox View Post
    You mean AutoCAD Architecture does not have in-built SAVEAS, or EXPORT functionality? *not sure*

    Can you not specify in OPTIONS dialog, Open and Save tab, Save as dropdown, select <YourOlderVersionHere>, so that those using new version have this set as default in their Profile?
    You can save to a previous version in ACA, but often you newer versions of AEC objects have less (and sometimes no) editing options available. In the OP's case, he's not wanting the Export to AutoCAD function as he wants other users in the same office to be able to edit the files. Export to AutoCAD is for sending to consultants who can't see the wall objects because they don't have the object enablers installed. One of the other frustrations with files saved back to previous versions is some commands just plain don't work. I use the AECModify* tools for even basic ACAD entities (hatches/polylines/etc.) and if a file comes from a newer version even those basic tools are disabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAtDiva View Post
    You can save to a previous version in ACA, but often you newer versions of AEC objects have less (and sometimes no) editing options available. In the OP's case, he's not wanting the Export to AutoCAD function as he wants other users in the same office to be able to edit the files. Export to AutoCAD is for sending to consultants who can't see the wall objects because they don't have the object enablers installed. One of the other frustrations with files saved back to previous versions is some commands just plain don't work. I use the AECModify* tools for even basic ACAD entities (hatches/polylines/etc.) and if a file comes from a newer version even those basic tools are disabled.
    As a Civil 3D user now, and Land Desktop user before that, I fully understand the issue... But asking for new APIs (those things under the veil that allow new custom Objects, Properties, etc. to exist in newer versions), to be supported by an older version is a pipe dream.... Until Autodesk finally implements backwards compatibility for the application, as they've finally done for Civil 3D (to a great extent; pressure pipes, grrr).

    [Edit] - Which only happens when they stop changing the core APIs.

    Money doesn't grow on trees, as I found out through many, many attempts to bend the universe to my will, but the OP's employer made a very conscious decision to purchase, and implement a mixed version environment, and is thusly suffering the benefits.

    Now, you can say that the employee that authorized procurement didn't know this would happen, and I bet that's entirely possible, as I am in what I feel is a rare position to have both in-depth technical knowledge of the tools with which we work (hardware, software, etc.), and am the employee responsible for gathering proposals, evaluating them, and ultimately procurement of same. Fact is, if the person who authorized the purchase didn't know, then either they didn't have one or more employees who did know this would happen effectively communicate same, or they were effectively informed, and should subsequently be replaced for intentionally, and very much negatively affecting the entire production team(s) as such.

    The only other thing I can think of, and I know not what versions exactly the OP is having issues with, is that if this last upgrade of only some of the user's application licenses was relatively recent, and by subscription, they *may* also be entitled to the previous versions they've licensed. In which case, they need only uninstall all the new seats, and re-install the legacy seats, so everyone is on the same production version... They can leave the new version installed, and I would, to allow users to start learning about enhancements, but it would be for non-production use only.

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    Saving to an earlier version

    Summary: Users should be able to save an Architecture drawing so that other users on earlier versions in the same office can work on them. Not all offices can afford to keep all their licenses current and it's impossible to collaborate with other users of Architecture.

    Description: Users should be able to save an Architecture drawing so that other users on earlier versions in the same office can work on them. Not all offices can afford to keep all their licenses current and it's impossible to collaborate with other users of Architecture.

    Product and Feature: AutoCAD Architecture - Drawing Compare

    Submitted By: Richard Logan on 10/29/2014


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    Summary: Users should be able to save an Architecture drawing so that other users on earlier versions in the same office can work on them. Not all offices can afford to keep all their licenses current and it's impossible to collaborate with other users of Architecture.

    Description: Users should be able to save an Architecture drawing so that other users on earlier versions in the same office can work on them. Not all offices can afford to keep all their licenses current and it's impossible to collaborate with other users of Architecture.

    Product and Feature: AutoCAD Architecture - Drawing Compare

    Submitted By: Richard Logan on 10/29/2014


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    Summary: Users should be able to save an Architecture drawing so that other users on earlier versions in the same office can work on them. Not all offices can afford to keep all their licenses current and it's impossible to collaborate with other users of Architecture.

    Description: Users should be able to save an Architecture drawing so that other users on earlier versions in the same office can work on them. Not all offices can afford to keep all their licenses current and it's impossible to collaborate with other users of Architecture.

    Product and Feature: AutoCAD Architecture - Drawing Compare

    Submitted By: Richard Logan on 10/29/2014


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    Saving to an earlier version

    Summary: Users should be able to save an Architecture drawing so that other users on earlier versions in the same office can work on them. Not all offices can afford to keep all their licenses current and it's impossible to collaborate with other users of Architecture.

    Description: Users should be able to save an Architecture drawing so that other users on earlier versions in the same office can work on them. Not all offices can afford to keep all their licenses current and it's impossible to collaborate with other users of Architecture.

    Product and Feature: AutoCAD Architecture - Drawing Compare

    Submitted By: Richard Logan on 10/29/2014


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