ADT or REVIT

[david_peterson]

Thanks for the clarification

[Steve_Bennett]

What is this option to "bump up", something where you can retain ADT alongside Revit?

Bump up= Crossgrade.

When you go from one product to another it is called Crossgrade instead of upgrade.

No when you get Revit you "have" to get a Subscription.
But yes If you own ADT you can get Revit at a redueced rate.
And if you want to keep ADT you need a Subscription for that.

The reason you need to have subscription is due to the licensing agreements & even then, I'm not sure if that is legal.

[Brian Myers]

Bump up= Crossgrade.

When you go from one product to another it is called Crossgrade instead of upgrade.
The reason you need to have subscription is due to the licensing agreements & even then, I'm not sure if that is legal.

You are correct Steve, if you crossgrade the products then you can only have the product with the latest license legally as you transfered your rights from the first program to the second and you can't have the subscription on both (unless you bought a legal copy of each, both with their own license.)

What I'm unclear on is if you can keep your old program? As I understand it, under subscription you can keep previous versions of the program on your computer. In other words, as long as you are on subscription, you can keep previous versions on your machine. Example: AutoCAD 2006 and AutoCAD 2005. But if you transfer or crossgrade your product does this apply as well? Could you have the latest Revit and the previous version of ADT as they both were purchased under the same valid license at the time? How does the Autodesk agreement read for this?

[BWG]

Wouldn't they have to let you leave it on their. Reason being, that the electronic files you created are yours, but in their format and they have to let you have access to your information. Otherwise, they would need a clause that forced you to dxf or import dwg into the new crossgrade program. I guess it would be whatever the EULAs say about the ownership of electronic data. Surely they have covered that somewhere.

[bata212.42467]

I have and email out to my Cad Dealer. Will let you know what they said.

[Brian Myers]

Thanks, I'm curious as to the official word on that...

[bata212.42467]

Yes as long as you're on subscription you can use old versions. If you're
not on subscription and you upgrade you do not have that option. It is per
products. So if you have latest version of Revit and old Revit, no problem
running old version as long as you're on subscription. But if it's latest version of Revit on Subscription and you want to run old ADT which is not on subscription I don't believe that's allowed.
From Cad Reseller

[Brian Myers]

I suppose this is to stop a person from purchasing ADT on Subscription then suddenly transferring the Subscription to Revit, paying the extra cost, but potentially getting a combination of the two programs, newest versions, at a substantial discount for the Combo.

I understand that logic, I just wish that this rule wouldn't apply to substantially older versions. Example: Lets say you purchased ADT 2004 and have been on subscription since. If you cross-graded from ADT 2006 to the newest Revit it would be nice to still be able to use the 2004 or 2005 which were legally yours and outdated before the exchange...

Thanks for the info!

[Steve_Stafford]

I seem to recall a sales pitch in the past that when you paid your money you could keep ADT when you bought Revit as opposed to a cross-grade. We cross-graded seats to Revit from ADT for $250 in 2003 and we could have kept the seats if we paid something like $950 instead. Yes, if we maintained subscription and the ADT seats were already on subscription (they were). I don't know if that is an option today.

[bata212.42467]

My Sub. for ADT was 595.
Could not get it done this year. have a few months before I can't get it any more.
not sure what "I" am going to do.