Is Autodesk pushing ADT more than Revit?

[anthony.67953]

I attended an Arch Desktop presentation last evening, walked out quite miffed. Autodesk continues to steal from the Revit program to beef up there Arch desktop. An ADT user still must do 3 mouse clicks to our 1, but they have a few features we have been asking for. ADT has the capability of tagging an object with all the written notes describing what the object is.

[jbalding48677]

Anthony -

I think you will find that Autodesk is, and will continue to be, pushing Revit more than ADT. However ADT is still going to be some people's preference (including some resellers???). That said, I think it is well within Autodesk's right to "steal" from Revit to put into ADT and, keep in mind, the reverse is true as I hope to see some of the ADT detailing capabilities included in Revit???!!!

[Wes Macaulay]

I would not be surprised to see auto keynoting such as you see in ADT end up in a soon-coming release of Revit. It's my understanding that R9 has a focus on working drawings.

[Nic M.]

We just had ADesk conference in Belgium. It was ALL about Revit.
Mark Paraskeva, Vice President Northern Europe spoke global about adesk and a couple of cases for 15 min. the rest (30min.) about SOM, the Freedom tower and Revit.
There was an adt presentation where at the end no questions where asked only to quickly move on to the Revit presentation.
It was also stated that adt will continue to be developed but at the moment Revit IS the future.
I found it reassuring to hear such a commitment/ (push) from autodesk towards Revit.

[D_Driver]

I attended an Arch Desktop presentation last evening, walked out quite miffed.

hmmm...You went to an ADT presentation and did not like it that ADT works? - LOL - he chuckles to himself opening himself up for flaming<g>

but they have a few features we have been asking for. ADT has the capability of tagging an object with all the written notes describing what the object is.

ADT has had this type of scheduling before revit was born!

Autodesk continues to steal from the Revit program to beef up there Arch desktop.

steals? it is the same company! sometimes I am fairly sure the same programmers!

I must say that as an end user of both products, when I am using Revit - I miss my ADT tools, When I am using ADT, I miss my Revit tools. when I am forced kicking and screaming to use vanilla ACAD I am just one unhappy puppy

It appears to me that there is a 2 way communication between the two products behind the scenes if not for the end user at this point. There are features that get (please use the word Migrated here rather than Stolen) between the products as the base code allows.

I don't think Autodesk is 'pushing' one over the other - they just want to sell product.

respectfully
David

[abarrette]

Keep in mind that while they are the same company they are different departments with different budgets and personnel. If I was working in ADT I'd do everything in my power to put Revit out of business (as much as I was allowed to anyway) It's job security for the ADT guys to push ADT. If ADT dissappears tomorrow it means they lose their jobs, same company or not. I am disconcerted at the advances in ADT but not surprised.


I also look at this as an opportuniy to show ADT users that switching to Revit isn't that bad for them. After all, we Reviteers know that the Revit whirlwind is coming now and in the future. ADT users need to be prepared with or without their knowledge. It would be nice if there was a date the axe would fall and everyone would be one or the other but look at the numbers... In that battle we're the Beta format my friends. Slow, steady, and inevitable is going to be our course for a while.

[barathd]

It's my understanding that R9 has a focus on working drawings.

Wes is this for real? Seems like we have been waiting for this for a life time.

Regards

Dick Barath

[Wes Macaulay]

I've heard these comments from various sources. But what are the developers really adding to the software tho? I don't know.

[cosmickingpin]

See folks there is no conspiracy, shop as usual, and avoid panic buying.

[size=2] If I was working in ADT I'd do everything in my power to put Revit out of business (as much as I was allowed to anyway)

[abarrette]

Now don't go spinning it that way. It's an honest observation. Being part of the same company doesn't stop competing products from competing, in fact it tends to increase that competition to a feverish pitch. It's a wonderful thing if you haven't chosen a side. For those of us who have chosen sides it's something worthy of keeping an eye on but not worthy of getting our panties in a twist over. Autodesk will follow the money, when ADT starts costing more to support then it brings in. It'll go away. Right now there aren't enough butts in Revit seats to turn the dollar. We all know that's going to change. The faster the better but reality is that we are a small but growing population of Revit users... it's going to take some time before we have the ammunition to take ADT on dollar for dollar. Of course, User for User we'd dance circles around them but that is neither here nor there.

[edit]My comment was basically along the lines of legality... not Autodesk mandates... but whatever. If it was humor it was lost on me... sorry =)[/edit]