Cutting Sweeps?

[Fishmonger]

I have a Log Siding sweep on a gable peak that I want to follow
the cut profile of the wall.
Is there a way to do this?
I've tried using voids (cuts the profile sweep until I try to finish mass) and building the Log Siding profile into the wall, but neither will cut the sweep.

Any thoughts on what I'm missing here would be appreciated.

Thanks

Dick

[Fishmonger]

I've added a picture to show what I'm getting, instead of the
log siding following the profile of the wall.
Any other ideas on to accomplish this would be appreciated.

[twiceroadsfool]

Im not too experienced with technical issues in Revit, so if theres an obvious reason why this wont work, i apologize...

But is the sweet part of the wall? Or is it a hosted sweep you put on after the fact? Im wondering if this would work if you added the sweep inside the wall type?

Or is that what you did and it doesnt work? lol...

[Fishmonger]

Yes I tried it both ways, no luck.
I also searched related posts and found
this is an ongoing issue.
I finally got around it by, creating extruded half logs (masses)
in the original Log Entry Canopy for this project, that sit just
in front of my wall. Those I can cut with a void.
So, that problem is not a problem any more.

Thanks to all.

[Henry D]

Hi Dick,

I just did a Garage/Apartment using log siding (I posted it in the Gallery Forum if you want to see it). Attached is a file with a log siding wall I made. I stuck a roof on it so you can see how the wall attaches to the roof. The wall has a stone plinth which you may not want, but you can at least see how I constructed the wall.

[Fishmonger]

Yes, Henry I'll take a look, always interested in
another way to get things done.

[residarchitect]

Henry, I liked your siding. As siding its great. I did a real log cabin
using real logs in Autocad. I found that it was not a typical structure
in any way. Logs in compression shrink a huge amount. I had to
plan for an 8+ inch shrinkage in the height of the building over a 6
year period. To accomodate the shrinkage, I had to put columns on
adjusting jacks, I had a stair design that had to eventually be able to
loose a whole riser, I had window and door heads that had the 8+
inch spacer below lintel/headers, I had mechanical system piping with
adjustable flanges, I had crown molding around the interior walls on both
sides to hide the wall gap for the ultimate shrinkage. These are only
a few of the headaches.

Also, in real wood log cabins the logs interlink at end points rather
than wrap as you drew. I like the log cabin look you achieved and given
that it could use conventional construction so much the better.

[Melarch]

You could attach a Reference Plane to the slope of the roof and then align the ends of your hosted sweep logs to the Reference Plane. All hosted sweep profiled patterns have end grips that can be lengthened or shortened. Using the Align tool with the Multiple Alignment checked will allow you to select the Reference Plane once and then align multiple hosted wall sweep profiles to the Reference Plane.

Depending on the realism of the log cabin wall you need to create, you may want to look at Create-In-Place to construct the wall or individual logs to stack one atop another.

Mel Persin, AIA

[Henry D]

Henry, I liked your siding. As siding its great. I did a real log cabin
using real logs in Autocad. I found that it was not a typical structure
in any way. Logs in compression shrink a huge amount. I had to
plan for an 8+ inch shrinkage in the height of the building over a 6
year period. To accomodate the shrinkage, I had to put columns on
adjusting jacks, I had a stair design that had to eventually be able to
loose a whole riser, I had window and door heads that had the 8+
inch spacer below lintel/headers, I had mechanical system piping with
adjustable flanges, I had crown molding around the interior walls on both
sides to hide the wall gap for the ultimate shrinkage. These are only
a few of the headaches.

Also, in real wood log cabins the logs interlink at end points rather
than wrap as you drew. I like the log cabin look you achieved and given
that it could use conventional construction so much the better.

Yes, you are very right. I am designing 2 log houses now and the final construction drawings will be done by log company - the details have to be done right. I also live and have my office in a log house. What I say about log houses is that you get a log house because you love the feeling of them and are willing to accept that they aren't going to behave and be as problem free as a conventional stick frame house - lots of cracks and shrinkage especially if you have a large structure with tall walls.

By the way, the file I attached was just to show how the wall with log siding sweeps can attach to a roof. You can get a realistic corner look with log siding by using false butt and pass logs, which are spliced on the ends of the siding at the corners. I posted a shot of this in the Gallery Forum.