Opaque Section Heads

[ddebaufre]

I want to use the Revit system section head but I want the "white" or no fill region inside the circle to be opaque. In other words if the section head is in the model (vs outboard of the walls) I want it to cover whats behind it. I get the region in and all but it covers the line between view # and page #. I want the text to be always Horiz. with the line dividing them and nothing showing thru the section head. Is this possible? I have done this with keynotes, door tags etc. but can't get the section tag to work.

[jspartz]

The best you can do is this:

Open up the 'Section Head - Open' family in your family library under Annotation.
Select the labels (text) and go to their properties and change their type parameters to opaque. This will mask out anything going through the text area. Save the change to the family if wanted and load it back into your project.

I've tried creating a white filled region for the circle itself, but once you load it into project, any filled region no matter what the color becomes a blue filled region, so it becomes a big blue blob.

[ford347]

Ok, so I've been messing around with this for a while and here's what I've found. You can create an opaque circle and opaque text to block out whatever it's in front of, but only if you can live without having the line between the detail number and the sheet number. If you look at the properties to that center line in the section family, there is a parameter grouped under the 'other' category for 'rotate with section head'...it's a checkbox. But this parameter isn't availiable to any other line, filled region or other?? So I don't know if there is a way to make this availiable to other geometry or not. I couldn't figure it out. But I created a couple of half circle filled regions and applied a 'no pattern' to them to create the wipe out, changed the text to opaque and the picture was my result. The problem is, I can't set these filled regions to not rotate with the section head, so I can't use a section mark line in the filled region on the horizontal seperation because it will rotate, then you'll end up with a vertical line. Also, the filled regions wipe out any other kind of line in the family as well and you can't set the veiw order as you normally would with a detail item. So unless someone knows how to keep these from rotating, looks like the line can't be done, but the filled region or 'wipe out' can.

Josh

hope this helps you out.

[ddebaufre]

Thanks, But I can already do the text. I want the whole circle opaque. Basically my problem is that line between the text. I use a filled region with "no pattern"; that way when I export to ACad, if needed, it won't show as a blob. The filled region covers the line though, or if you replace the line with another it won't rotate with the text and I don't see a way to "send to back" for the region. And my Boss wants the line; what can I say.....

[Apsis0215]

Had the same problem-

Here is a workaround:

Create your filled region (Entire circle)
Please use the name "Opaque" for the hatch/fill names
set the "Opaque" hatch pattern to aligned with object- parallel lines- and spacing 10'-0".
Set the fill as opaque(Now you have a basic line-less hatch pattern)

To create the bar- here's the trick

Create a Note Text Type called "Under bar"
Set the height to 1/64"
Set the scale width to 0.25

Create a line of text that is all "______" under bars-
This line should go from one edge of the circle to the other.

Because text remains aligned- the "under bar" remains aligned.

Get it 'close enough' so that the edges barely lap. It takes some tweaking but once it is done- works fine!

You can change the thickness of the under bar by changing the height of the font (Effectively giving a "Scaled-up" under bar). The smaller the width- the more control you have over the bar size-

Be warned- it cannot be exact- text floats for some reason... and doesn't align the same in the model/plan/etc as it does the family editor.

[bowlingbrad]

Here is a workaround...

We do it the exact same way! Great minds think alike!

[theoryshaw]

why not just use a 'masking region' instead of...
"set the "Opaque" hatch pattern to aligned with object- parallel lines- and spacing 10'-0"."

[jsguptill692325]

I've found that if you use the method below, there are some quirks. I couldn't get the parallel lines to show as opague in 2017.
I've found a very similar solution: Create a solid fill (white) filled region as the circle. Edit the label and set the background to 'opague' for the text. Create a small (1/64") text and use underscore ('_____') for the divider line. Yes, I will admit that the fill is blue but at least you can see the numbers on the callout/section head and it always works for me. No matter the level or placement. I have yet to find a 'works here, doesn't work there'. It's just another possible method.

[alessandro807729]

Create a "Callout Head" (for some reason callout heads show up perfectly fine in the project) In this family, add the masking region behind the circle. Then CHANGE the category to the "Section Marks" category. Load into project and done. You'll notice soon that the orientation is locked to one axis. You'll have to make two versions of this family; one horizontal and one vertical.

- - - Updated - - -

I realized the method i posted still doesn't work the way we would want. depending on how you place the section, the position of the detail and sheet number reference switch.