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    Is there a good tutorial or ATP class for endcaps, preferably for ADT 2007. They are driving me insane!
    I searched the forums, but didn't find anything.

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    Default Re: Endcaps

    Do the similar threads at the bottom of this page help any?

    I could swear I've done a writeup on this somewhere in here... ~trails off to go searching~
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    Default Re: Endcaps

    Have you checked the between the walls blog, or JTB world. I think I remember seeing one out there. Once again, Paul's book should give you a good understanding of them.

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    Well, I dunno, but the basic rule of thumbs are:

    • To create one polyline (PL) for each component of the wall.
    • Each PL needs to be open.
    • Draw your wall with a left justification from left to right on the screen. When you draw your wall following this, draw each polyline counter clockwise on the end of the wall (right side of screen).
    • Each polyline needs to stop/start at the same point at the end of the wall.
    • If you want part of the endcap invisible, create that segment of the PL with a width.
    • Use the auto convert first to try and generate the endcap automatically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Bennett
    Well, I dunno, but the basic rule of thumbs are:
    • To create one polyline (PL) for each component of the wall.
    • Each PL needs to be open.
    • Each polyline needs to stop/start at the same point at the end of the wall.
    • If you want part of the endcap invisible, create that segment of the PL with a width.
    • Use the auto convert first to try and generate the endcap automatically.
    To Add to what Steve said, You will need one open pline for each material layer (wall component) you have. Basically what I do is draw a line perpendicular to the wall (just as a reference). Then you want to start with either the outside component or the inside component and work in one direction. So you draw one open pline for the gyp. One open pline for the stud. Then one open line for the gyp on the other side. When you look at the start/end points of the plines, the distance between them needs to match that of the wall component. Or at least this worked in 05 ~eyes roll as IT guy says, "nope can't afford the new box"

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    Default Re: Endcaps

    Thanks for the tips, guys. I did do an open pline, then when I had it create automatically, the endcap was rotated about 30 degrees to the wall. Let me mess around with it a bit more. I'll be sure to let you know if I don't succeed!

    I do remember seeing something on endcaps. I thought it was an ATP class, but I can't find it. It showed some examples, one of which is pretty much what I'm trying to do. Oh well!

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    Here is the thread I was thinking of...
    http://forums.augi.com/showthread.php?t=6991
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    Quote Originally Posted by dzatto
    Thanks for the tips, guys. I did do an open pline, then when I had it create automatically, the endcap was rotated about 30 degrees to the wall. Let me mess around with it a bit more. I'll be sure to let you know if I don't succeed!

    I do remember seeing something on endcaps. I thought it was an ATP class, but I can't find it. It showed some examples, one of which is pretty much what I'm trying to do. Oh well!
    Make certain that the start and stop points of your endcap polylines all align, and fall along a line that is perpendicular to the length of the wall. If you start and stop points do not do that, then ADT will rotate the polyline until the endpoints align.

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    Default Re: Endcaps

    I remember seeing that! That thread helped, thanks. I'm having one problem, though. My wall has:

    Brick
    4" split face accent
    Brick
    Rowlock

    Base-12" split face

    All of them are doing what I want, except for the top brick course. I figure I would just draw 2 polylines on top of each other. One for the brick below the accent, and one for the brick above the accent, but that's not working. Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkoch
    Make certain that the start and stop points of your endcap polylines all align, and fall along a line that is perpendicular to the length of the wall. If you start and stop points do not do that, then ADT will rotate the polyline until the endpoints align.
    Yeah, I figured that one out the hard way. I finally found that line of info in the help file. Thanks, though!

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