Multiple views on one sheet

[dzatto]

I'm going for the record of mosts posts in a thread! Okay, another problem has arose (arisen?). Whatever. Anyway, here it is.
I have different constructs for finished floor and mezzanine. I created different view files for each for my reflective ceiling plan. I prefer to just use my own light blocks in the drawing, and don't use the actual reflective ceiling display. So, I created my sheet and realized that I have enough room to put both finished floor and mezzaning plans on one sheet, rather than having a mezzanine on one with a bunch of wasted space. So, when I drag the finished floor view, it's fine. As soon as I drag the mezzanine view, all exterior wall for both plans give the the red circles of doom, and there's even some really tiny circles of doom I've never seen before. Also, some of the walls change color. What gives? I checked it by opening one of the constructs, then overlaying the others in it and it was fine. It's only doing it in the sheet.

[Steve_Bennett]

Because you've got 2 files with walls in the same exact place is why you are getting the red circles of death. rcp's were designed to be placed in either the same construct as the floor plan or a separate file with the walls xrefd in as an overlay for reference.

[dzatto]

Because you've got 2 files with walls in the same exact place is why you are getting the red circles of death. rcp's were designed to be placed in either the same construct as the floor plan or a separate file with the walls xrefd in as an overlay for reference.

But they are on 2 different levels. They don't interfere with each other on my sections and elevation views. Shouldn't ACA realize that the walls are on different levels and place them accordingly?

As far as the RCP's, I really don't use them. I just take my floor plan construct with my light blocks in it. They aren't set up to display in the reflected view, and I'm not using ceiling grids. I just place them manually.

[Steve_Bennett]

Go to the sheet file and look at it in 3D. what do you see? either that or etransmit the sheet file and post here.

I understand what you are doing with the rcp's. What I meant was that they should all be done in constructs. Since you are placing them in views that might be part of the problem.

[dzatto]

Go to the sheet file and look at it in 3D. what do you see? either that or etransmit the sheet file and post here.

I understand what you are doing with the rcp's. What I meant was that they should all be done in constructs. Since you are placing them in views that might be part of the problem.

Okay, that's the problem. I'm still a little confused, though. Let me walk you through what I did again, I think I explained it wrong. I have 2 constructs, one for finished floor and one for mezzanine. They each have their own levels assigned. I put my spaces and light fixtures in my construct. I then created a view for each lighting plan. When I drag and drop the view into a sheet, all is well. But, as you mentioned, when I drag them both into the same sheet, the mezzanine plan is inserted at level 0 instead of at 9', which is causing the circles of death.

So, is there no way to combine views of different levels onto sheets? Will it always put it at a 0 elevation?

[stelthorst]

Hi Dan,

Are you creating named views within your view drawings? I have used multiple views on one sheet but I always create named views. When you drag a named view into a sheet a layer is created for that view. Then when you drag another named view in the first view layer is turned off in the new viewport.

I just wrote that and I'm confused but ultimately my question is do you use named views?

[dzatto]

Hi Dan,

Are you creating named views within your view drawings? I have used multiple views on one sheet but I always create named views. When you drag a named view into a sheet a layer is created for that view. Then when you drag another named view in the first view layer is turned off in the new viewport.

I just wrote that and I'm confused but ultimately my question is do you use named views?

Well, let me think. I'm pretty sure that's what I do. Basically, I create a view, dimension it, annotate it, all that good stuff. Then I right click in PN and choose "New Model Space View". Then it asks me for the name and scale. Then I do a pick window and it creates it and puts it in PN under the original view file. Then the new model space view is what I drag into my sheet.

[dzatto]

Okay Steve and Scott (and anyone else). I need help on this. As the pirate once said about the steering wheel in his pants "Arrrgh, it's drivin' me nuts!" Anyway, I can't figure out how to put multiple views on one sheet. When I look at it in 3D, the mezzanine level is inserted at a 0 elevation, which is screwing everything up. Here's the zip file. It's rather large. I hope you guys can figure this one out. I'm outta here for the weekend. Have a good one, hopefully talk to ya's on Monday.

[stelthorst]

Okay Steve and Scott (and anyone else). I need help on this. As the pirate once said about the steering wheel in his pants "Arrrgh, it's drivin' me nuts!" Anyway, I can't figure out how to put multiple views on one sheet. When I look at it in 3D, the mezzanine level is inserted at a 0 elevation, which is screwing everything up. Here's the zip file. It's rather large. I hope you guys can figure this one out. I'm outta here for the weekend. Have a good one, hopefully talk to ya's on Monday.

Hi Dan,

First, you can thank MBH for me taking the time to look at your files she had "girls night out" tonight and I was bored.

Now for the fun part, I took your files and created my own test project to see what would happen. I too could not get multiple levels on one sheet without getting interference symbols. I then created a view with both levels in it and it looked as I would have expected (ie with the mezzanine in the correct position.)

What I ended up doing was shifting the mezzanine level 100' east in the view drawing and this allowed me to create a multiple level sheet with no interference symbols.

Since I'm not an Architect I'm not sure if this is the solution although I have received many drawings from Architects that had done just that.

If you would like to see my test project PM me with your email address and I will send it to you. The e-transmit file is over 10 mB otherwise I would post it here.

Hope this helps,

BTW: Very nice work

[dzatto]

Hi Dan,

First, you can thank MBH for me taking the time to look at your files she had "girls night out" tonight and I was bored.

Now for the fun part, I took your files and created my own test project to see what would happen. I too could not get multiple levels on one sheet without getting interference symbols. I then created a view with both levels in it and it looked as I would have expected (ie with the mezzanine in the correct position.)

What I ended up doing was shifting the mezzanine level 100' east in the view drawing and this allowed me to create a multiple level sheet with no interference symbols.

Since I'm not an Architect I'm not sure if this is the solution although I have received many drawings from Architects that had done just that.

If you would like to see my test project PM me with your email address and I will send it to you. The e-transmit file is over 10 mB otherwise I would post it here.

Hope this helps,

BTW: Very nice work

Scott!! Well, first, thanks to your MUCH better half. Second, thanks to you for taking the time on the weekend to check it out.

I actually thought about doing the same thing. As a matter of fact, I was about to do it, then I had a realization. If I move the mezzanine part at all it will mess up all of my section and elevation files. Unless, of course, I duplicate it. But then updates will be a disaster, not to mention all of my schedules. There has to be a way to do this. I can't imagine Autodesk missing something this big. I'm sure it has something to do with a setting somewhere, but all my stuff is on the correct level, so I really don't know what it could be.

I guess, for now, I'm going to have to increase the scale to 1/4" and put each view on a separate sheet. That's not all bad, but it wastes paper and sure does look weird when a sheet is plotted with a whole bunch of blank space in it! Thanks again for trying to figure it out. At least now I know it's not just me! Isn't it wierd that the view with both levels in it stacks them appropriately? Maybe Steve will have some insight. Oh Steven......................

Oh, thanks for the compliment. I try my best, sorta helps me keep my job!