Concrete piers, columns and footings

[Galadriel]

am still new at this and am not sure if some had asked about this subject.
i have a HSS column that is sitting on a pier. I placed my column, then my pier and finally my footing. but if i try to move my column only the footing moves with it. I understand that my footing is the host of that column so how can I make my pier to be the host of that column and and the footing to be the host of the pier?
thank you in advance for your help

[Alan aka cadalot]

have you placed these on a grid line intersection?

I'm new at this as well but my understanding is that it you place them on a grid intersection, By moving the grid you would move the lot and any associated beams that fix into them.

You can always turn off the grid in a view if you don't actually want it on the final drawing.

If someone can confirm what I'm saying it right, that would be cool.

Alan (cadalot)

[Galadriel]

wether i have them on grids or not the footing will move with the column and attached itself to the bottom of the column.

[mmcfadden]

I am new to this myself, but what i have been doing is placing the column on top of the pier and then doing the footing as a create in place foundation. then i group them together.
if this is a bad way of doing things please feel free to comment.

[michael.boyd]

Try locking dims from the column to the peir, even if it is "0", then delete the dim, unless you click unconstrain in the diolog box that pops up everything should still be constrained.

Or you could align them and lock them together.

Michael

[Galadriel]

Michael thanks for your help. i did the dimensions and then i used the align tool and that worked.
Javier

[rmcelvain.103137]

wether i have them on grids or not the footing will move with the column and attached itself to the bottom of the column.

We've had the same issue. The order of creation needs to be:

1. Concrete Pier
2. Footing to Pier
3. HSS Column

This will create a relationship between the Pier and the Footing instead of the Column and Footing. I've never had a decent explanation of why this happens so I can't help you there...but this process does seem to work.