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    Default Annotation Scale list keeps propagating the whole list

    We are working on getting our standards and blocks updated / converted for the leap to vanilla ACAD 08. I tried to read up on all the annotative scale issues and converting DB to include annotative scaling.

    So here’s what I cant figure out: I created a new fp proto dwg and removed all of the scales I do not want in the dwg. I revamped some of the details (door tags, room tags…) to be annotative and removed the scales I do not want in the dwg. I still get that long list of annotative scales.

    What am I doing wrong, cuz I know it is not AutoCAD.....................
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    Default Re: Annotation Scale list keeps propagating the whole list

    Be sure your are "purging" the unneeded scales in your blocks too. If a block has an Annotative Scale within it, it will import that scale when inserted into your drawing.
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    Default Re: Annotation Scale list keeps propagating the whole list

    CADDmanVA - I will go back and triple check that the scales were purged out. I know they were removed from the list, but purged huh.

    Thanks foe the idea
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    Default Re: Annotation Scale list keeps propagating the whole list

    Quote Originally Posted by jacep View Post
    CADDmanVA - I will go back and triple check that the scales were purged out. I know they were removed from the list, but purged huh.

    Thanks foe the idea
    Sorry, maybe the phrase purge was a bad idea to use. You can't delete Annotative Scales from the PURGE routine. That's just the first thing I would check on, I still have that problem with some of my older blocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CADDmanVA View Post
    Sorry, maybe the phrase purge was a bad idea to use. You can't delete Annotative Scales from the PURGE routine. That's just the first thing I would check on, I still have that problem with some of my older blocks.
    Hello!

    What I did was take the list of scales I don'need out of my template file. Then I made sure my blocks didn't have the long list either.
    So I created a new file, checked the list it, and it was fine, then I inserted a block, and the list is now back to default. Is that normal? I hope not.
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    Default Re: Annotation Scale list keeps propagating the whole list

    Quote Originally Posted by ededios View Post
    ...So I created a new file, checked the list it, and it was fine, then I inserted a block, and the list is now back to default. Is that normal? I hope not.
    No, that is not normal at all. Is it possible you can post the template and offending block?
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    Default Re: Annotation Scale list keeps propagating the whole list

    What I have found is that if I insert the cleaned out blocks and insert them into the new template, then the scale lists as they should be, only the scales I want, but if I pull the block off a pallet then the scale list has everything.
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    Default Re: Annotation Scale list keeps propagating the whole list

    Quote Originally Posted by jacep View Post
    What I have found is that if I insert the cleaned out blocks and insert them into the new template, then the scale lists as they should be, only the scales I want, but if I pull the block off a pallet then the scale list has everything.
    That's exactly my problem, also inserting from Design Center has the same effect.
    Using the insert command works fine, but all our standard blocks come from Tool Palettes. So I hope there's something I can do to fix this.

    CADDmanVA - I've attached my template and a file that has some standard blocks (where my Tool Palettes grab the blocks from).

    Thank you
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    Default Re: Annotation Scale list keeps propagating the whole list

    That explains a lot. Annotative Scale doesn't get along well with the DC and pallets. I don't use either, so it never occurred to me before you two mentioned it. Sorry about that.
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    Default Re: Annotation Scale list keeps propagating the whole list

    Quote Originally Posted by CADDmanVA
    Annotative Scale doesn't get along well with the DC and pallets.

    It's this kind of stuff that makes me miss Microstation
    Well, I can now leave this topic and move on to the next. . Thank you CADDmanVA!!
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