simpson hangers in 3d

[ray salmon]

or is there such a thing

be just really cool if we could have simpson stuff as models in RVT or even some imported 3d mode....

any successfull hunters out there..

ray

[patricks]

IMHO that would be total overkill and would probably totally overload the Revit model.

Sometimes I will model some roof framing, but never wall framing or any of that, and I wouldn't want to go around trying to figure out where to put all the different joist hangers, straps, etc. etc. That's what the guys in the field are supposed to do.

The only exception I might consider would be some of Simpson's really big architectural exposed connections, which I would probably want to model if it shows up in an elevation or section view.

[ray salmon]

just thinking about puting them where they would be seen

the model should be much smaller than a lot of specialty kitchen and bath families...

saw a few in Revit City... but they appear to be just 2d paste ons.

[BigBadBIM]

or is there such a thing

be just really cool if we could have simpson stuff as models in RVT or even some imported 3d mode....

any successfull hunters out there..

ray

Oooo, Oooo, and 3D nails too

I'm just kiddin' Ray. I hope you don't take this the wrong way.

I did have a guy ask me if he could model nails once. Not sure what HE was thinkin'

[ray salmon]

well actually we do show a lot nailing in details... but probably don't need a full on 3d model of them...

on of my big disappointments is lack of hardware shown like door handles hindges etc...

ray

[BigBadBIM]

well actually we do show a lot nailing in details... but probably don't need a full on 3d model of them...

on of my big disappointments is lack of hardware shown like door handles hindges etc...

ray

What kind of work do you do, Ray?

Seems like nailing details would best be handled as detail components at most. As far as door hardware and such there are families out there that have them. You just have to ask yourself "where will this be seen?" Only in elevation, then part of the family might be linework that shows the hardware. If you do a lot of renderings that show close ups of the door and the hardwares hows, then yeah, you need it, but otherwise... Doesn't it just increase the file size of your model?

[barry.40197]

We're designing prefab modular homes that get built in a factory & shipped to site. They want shop DWG's with every stud, joist, hanger, electrical box, etc... dimensioned & scheduled on the DWG. So I to need the 3D Simpson families. Here is my first attempt at creating one.

[cliff collins]

I think Revit Structure would be able to handle hangers like these?

Maybe export to Tekla or another structure-specific BIM app?

I'd hate to populate a RAC model with all of those!

Perhaps a separate linked model with the hangers only would minimize
clutter/performance hit?

cheers.........

[patricks]

It would still have to regenerate all those surfaces every time you zoom/pan/rotate etc. I'd bet even a linked model with the hangers would slow it down.

[twiceroadsfool]

Those families are a neat idea, if youre detailing a model to that extreme... But thats the top of family we shouldnt be manually placing, or theres little point in the *I* of BIM.

For instance, if theyre for joist hanging, nest them in the ends of your Joist families. Then, its ancillary. If i have to place joists, then place hangers, then reconfigure joists and reconfigure hangers...

I wouldnt mind it, and id feel more BIM about it, if they were built in to the objects like joists, trusses, etc...