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    Default Can't override surface pattern with a model pattern?

    I have some ceilings that I need to apply a different model pattern in one specific view. However I noticed that the Override Element In View function has the Model pattern button grayed out when you try to pick a surface pattern. Why would it do this? Has it always done this ever since the object override functions were introduced in RAC 2008?

    How can I get a different surface pattern on a ceiling in only 1 view? Painting the surface is out of the question because that affects all views. Linework also does not work on model pattern lines.

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    Hi! Yes you can do this. The trick is to select the ceiling object, not the model pattern lines. Put your mouse over the edge of the ceiling and tap your tab key until the ceiling object is highlighted. Select it and then right click. You will be able to change the surface pattern at that point.
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    Default Re: Can't override surface pattern with a model pattern?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teresa.Martin View Post
    Hi! Yes you can do this. The trick is to select the ceiling object, not the model pattern lines. Put your mouse over the edge of the ceiling and tap your tab key until the ceiling object is highlighted. Select it and then right click. You will be able to change the surface pattern at that point.
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    Negative.

    Select the actual ceiling > right-click > Override element in view > Surface Patterns > only drafting patterns are available.

    It appears this is the case for all model elements.

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    Default Re: Can't override surface pattern with a model pattern?

    I can't believe this. I'm actually having to draw lines over my ceiling grids in a couple of views just to make it look correct.

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    Default Re: Can't override surface pattern with a model pattern?

    I just ran into this same issue. Did you find a decent workaround?
    thanks,
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    Default Re: Can't override surface pattern with a model pattern?

    Quote Originally Posted by jontramos View Post
    I just ran into this same issue. Did you find a decent workaround?
    thanks,
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    Nope. I just had to do the lines over the dashed ceiling grid pattern.

    Revit Support tried to suggest using filters, but that is just as useless as the element overrides. In fact, no model element of any type can have its surface pattern overridden with another model pattern. Drafting patterns are the ONLY pattern overrides available system-wide.

    There may be a way to make it work using overlapping instances of the same ceilings, and some tricky manipulation of phase created/demolished of each ceiling (some may end up temporary in the same phase), but I haven't delved into it that much.

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    Default Re: Can't override surface pattern with a model pattern?

    I ended up doing transparent filled regions over my ceiling grid as a work around. I tried to do a graphic filter, but ran into the same as what you described... not model patterns for overrides. I don't know why Revit has that limitation.

    Thanks for your help.

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    Default Re: Can't override surface pattern with a model pattern?

    Actually that sounds like a better idea than lines. I only had a few ceilings to deal with, maybe 6-8 total, and 6-8 filled regions with a model pattern would have been alot better than nearly 100 lines per view!

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    Default Re: Can't override surface pattern with a model pattern?

    This is really annoying. We've run into this issue where we have existing elements with their surface patterns overridden but we need to apply new tiles to an existing wall. The only ways we can do this are via filled region or a drafting fill pattern with the scale worked out. Seems a pretty weird decision to take on the dev's part.

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    Default Re: Can't override surface pattern with a model pattern?

    bump

    Any fix for this yet?

    Or is there an easy way to convert a model hatch pattern to a drafting pattern?

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