Can't override surface pattern with a model pattern?

[dbaldacchino]

I can understand why you want to override the surface pattern, but what's so important to use a model pattern? Think about it....model patterns are supposed to represent actual model geometry but in "wireframe" format so to speak. So if you override a model pattern, in essence you're changing the model. I believe that's why you can only use a drafting pattern. This way it's only a view-specific override. If you want to use a fill that is only available as a model pattern, you'll have to convert it to a drafting pattern. If it's available in a pat file, then you can do that easily.

[patricks]

We wouldn't have this problem if we had some kind of model pattern editor that would allow the use of actual line patterns that are defined in the project, and subsequently, be able to override those line patterns on a per-view basis (or override the pattern of lines in patterns using phase graphic overrides).

[nancy.mcclure]

Hmmm, seems you can split the face of the ceiling, paint a new material onto it, and that material's surface pattern is adjustable as a model pattern.

[patricks]

Hmmm, seems you can split the face of the ceiling, paint a new material onto it, and that material's surface pattern is adjustable as a model pattern.

But that's still a model pattern that shows in all views.

My original question related to overriding the pattern with a model pattern in only a single view, using the element override in that view.

[bregnier]

I agree with patrick here. To me model patterns and drafting patterns really don't have the same set of distinctions as model and drafting lines. Drafting patterns applied to a material still show up in all views, after all. To me the difference is really only in the scale and orientation of the pattern. Where i get frustrated with this is 3d views, as drafting patterns will rotate and shift on you and won't follow the geometry.

My only guess is there is a fundamental difference in the way that Revit treats these patterns in the database, which makes it difficult to override one but not the other...?

[stuntmonkee]

I'm trying to do this through a view filter, still no go. Looks as if you can only override a surface pattern with a drafting pattern and not a model. Seems kinda silly, but what do you do.

Stunts

[DoTheBIM]

... but what do you do.

I just went through this myself recently and here's what I ended up doing....