Turn off OLE frame in AutoCAD 2004

[okonforti.91529]

Can someone please help me understand how to turn the frames off an OLE object?
I have this one computer that started to show the frames on the OLE (Word document) object. This is new and did not happen before. All the other machines in the office can plot the same file without showing the frame except this one?!
I can't find any publication to solve this issue and the "OLEframe" command is only introduced in 2005.

Thanks

[jaberwok]

Going by (dodgy) memory here - I think you left-click inside the document then right-click on the frame and select Frame Off or similar.

[Mike.Perry]

Hi "okonforti.91529" ( Sorry, I do not know your real name )

Please note I have *moved* this thread from the AutoCAD Customization (http://forums.augi.com/forumdisplay.php?f=118) forum to this one, as I feel this particular forum is a more appropriate place for such a topic.

Thanks, Mike

Forum Manager

[Mike.Perry]

Hi

If additional information is required, try HERE.

Have a good one, Mike

[rkmcswain]

Can someone please help me understand how to turn the frames off an OLE object?
I have this one computer that started to show the frames on the OLE (Word document) object. This is new and did not happen before. All the other machines in the office can plot the same file without showing the frame except this one?!
I can't find any publication to solve this issue and the "OLEframe" command is only introduced in 2005.

Thanks

See Tip #6 here [ http://new.cadalyst.com/newsline/issue.cfm?issue=200419 ]

[Mike.Perry]

See Tip #6 here [ http://new.cadalyst.com/newsline/issue.cfm?issue=200419 ]Hi

Only good for AutoCAD 2005 or above users; unfortunately OLEFrame will not work for "okonforti.91529" ( Sorry, I do not know your real name ), as stated in his / her original post...


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I can't find any publication to solve this issue and the "OLEframe" command is only introduced in 2005.Plus, thread title used - Turn off OLE frame in AutoCAD 2004

Have a good one, Mike

[rkmcswain]

Only good for AutoCAD 2005 or above users; unfortunately OLEFrame will not work for "okonforti.91529"

Mike,
Yes, I read the thread title, and yes I read the original post.

Now please read the entire tip at the URL I posted. It specifically addresses the persistance of a frame on OLE objects in "earlier than 2005" versions and how to fix.

[Mike.Perry]

Mike,
Yes, I read the thread title, and yes I read the original post.

Now please read the entire tip at the URL I posted. It specifically addresses the persistance of a frame on OLE objects in "earlier than 2005" versions and how to fix.Hi

Ok! here is the complete tip you referenced in your above post...

6. AUTOCAD 2005 TIPS: OLE FRAME FRUSTRATION, SHEET SET SPY (http://new.cadalyst.com/newsline/issue.cfm?issue=200419#6)


A new system variable in AutoCAD 2005, OLEFRAME, may cause problems when you insert an OLE object in AutoCAD 2005, then open the drawing in an earlier version of AutoCAD. When you plot the drawing in the earlier version, the OLE object may have a frame that's impossible to get rid of. To fix, open the drawing in AutoCAD 2005 and reset OLEFRAME to 0. Thanks to Leonid Nemirovsky at BTN (Better Than Nothing) AutoLISP:
http://home.pacifier.com/~nemi (http://home.pacifier.com/%7Enemi)

And one from Autodesk: Stymied by a locked sheet set? Move your mouse cursor over the icon to see a tooltip with the user name and computer name of whoever has it locked.Maybe I am missing something here ( mostly likely ), but the solution offered in the above tip appears to be open the drawing in AutoCAD 2005 and reset OLEFRAME to 0.

Please correct me if I am wrong on this.

Have a good one, Mike

[rkmcswain]

Ok, since you quoted it (I didn't want to do this due to copyright issues - it does say "Copyright (c) 2003 by CADALYST Magazine. Reproduction or distribution in whole or in part without written permission is prohibited." )

Yes, the solution is to open in 2005 and change the variable. The cause is also stated - this variable was set while the drawing was being edited in 2005.

Just because a person is not "2005 user" doesn't change the fact that this is a solution. We don't know the history of this drawing. It very well may have been opened in 2005 at some point in it's life and had OLEFRAME set to 1

[robert.1.hall72202]

If ole frame is turned off, then can the object still be selected?

[jaberwok]

If ole frame is turned off, then can the object still be selected?


No.
(As far as I can tell).

[okonforti.91529]

Thank you all for replying and hope you all still friends......
To explain, my OLE (Word file) is an Xref that is shared over our network.
Everyone is using AutoCAD 2004 LDD and when they all plot the frames do not show. My computer used to be the same until 2 weeks ago.
I'm sure there was some setting changes due to an Accurender trial that i had installed.
I’m also sure that there has to be a way to fix it back to what it was, i just don't know yet how to?!
I have tried to change my profile with someone else; I have tried to turn off any possible frames that I'm aware of through Raster Design, Map and regular AutoCAD.

Please don't give up yet, this can and should be solved.....

Thanks,
Ofir

[Mike.Perry]

If ole frame is turned off, then can the object still be selected?Hi

The method presented HERE might work... try it and see.

Plus, the following might be of some use...

Unable to select OLE (eg Excel) Objects within drawing file

Ofir, you may wish to review the above thread ( Note: I do not think it will be of help in resolving your particular issue / problem, but you never know ).

Ofir, what happens if a good user logs onto your computer - do they experience the issue / problem OR is everything still ok! for them ?

Have a good one, Mike

[Mike.Perry]

Hi

Ok, since you quoted it (I didn't want to do this due to copyright issues - it does say "Copyright (c) 2003 by CADALYST Magazine. Reproduction or distribution in whole or in part without written permission is prohibited." )Thank you for showing such concern towards Copyright, but by having written permission your above statement is a moot point to myself.



Yes, the solution is to open in 2005 and change the variable. The cause is also stated - this variable was set while the drawing was being edited in 2005.

Just because a person is not "2005 user" doesn't change the fact that this is a solution. We don't know the history of this drawing. It very well may have been opened in 2005 at some point in it's life and had OLEFRAME set to 1Please note I never argued the fact it was not a solution, I merely pointed out it does not help an AutoCAD 2004 user...

Have a good one, Mike

[okonforti.91529]

Mike, again thanks for taking the time to help. unfortunately, I had someone else "good" log on my computer and it had the same results. The other link (WMF) did not work also.

There has to be a way! ...I do not want to reinstall AutoCAD....

Thanks,

Ofir

[rkmcswain]

Thank you for showing such concern towards Copyright, but by having written permission your above statement is a moot point to myself.


You lost me there.... :?:



I merely pointed out it does not help an AutoCAD 2004 user...


...unless they have access to 2005 or later.

[rkmcswain]

There has to be a way! ...I do not want to reinstall AutoCAD....


Ofir,

You have already spent a day and a half - an AutoCAD reinstall takes less than 30 minutes. Even if you do a brute force uninstall (see below URL's) to clean the machine, you are looking at an hour tops.

Have you considered restoring your XP using System Restore (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/systemrestore.mspx) to a point in time before this behaviour started?


http://support.autodesk.com/getdoc.asp?ID=TS45252
http://support.autodesk.com/getdoc.asp?ID=TS59859
http://support.autodesk.com/getdoc.asp?ID=TS84578

[Mike.Perry]

Mike, again thanks for taking the time to help. unfortunately, I had someone else "good" log on my computer and it had the same results. The other link (WMF) did not work also.Hi

No worries...

Same results as in OLE Frame did not Plot for them OR OLE Frame did Plot for them ( same results as yourself ) ?

The WMF link was in reply to Robert's question...


If ole frame is turned off, then can the object still be selected?It was not meant for yourself - apologies for any confusion.

Have a good one, Mike

[okonforti.91529]

Hi,
I had someone log onto my computer and the OLE frames were still showing when he tried to plot.
Right now we are using 1 sheet of every set that includes OLE Object, so every time I need to plot it I ask someone else to plot it for me so the frames will not show up.

In the next month or so we will be installing the '06 version so the worst case is I will not plot anything that includes OLE until then.

I have to add, that this is the first case where it seems like there is no way out.
It is very strange to see that there is no solution for this specific issue even that I saw other users ask about it. I'm disappointed to see for the first time that the support from Autodesk is limited about their products. I thought if someone wrote the program and bugs are found they will be able to address them.

Anyway, I do thank you all at AUGI for trying.

Ofir